{"id":606,"date":"2026-06-13T22:22:57","date_gmt":"2026-06-13T12:22:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/?p=606"},"modified":"2026-06-13T22:22:57","modified_gmt":"2026-06-13T12:22:57","slug":"lilydale-line-trip-time-delta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/?p=606","title":{"rendered":"Lilydale Line Trip Time Delta"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Here&#8217;s a thing I threw together in an attempt to visualise what&#8217;s wrong with the timetable for the Lilydale line. A measure in common use is the time between services. The metric is easy to grasp. Trains are 30 minutes apart in the middle of the day, and it&#8217;s horrible. The metric doesn&#8217;t paint the whole picture. Some services move faster than others, and time lost is time lost whether you&#8217;re standing on a platform or stopping all stations except East Richmond.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So here it is &#8211; The Time to Hoddle Grid Delta:  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large wp-duotone-unset-1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TTHG-Delta.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TTHG-Delta-1024x576.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-607\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TTHG-Delta-1024x576.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TTHG-Delta-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TTHG-Delta-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TTHG-Delta.png 1450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8230;and its close cousin, the Time from Hoddle Grid Delta:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large wp-duotone-unset-2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TFHG-Delta.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"571\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TFHG-Delta-1024x571.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-608\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TFHG-Delta-1024x571.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TFHG-Delta-300x167.png 300w, https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TFHG-Delta-768x428.png 768w, https:\/\/www.ubermotive.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/TFHG-Delta.png 1463w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Basically, it shows much worse your trip will be from the <em>best<\/em> service, for a given time of day.  This takes possible platform changes into account. It also accounts for the city loop direction, and it will be based on the first &#8220;Hoddle Grid&#8221; station, being either Parliament or Flinders St. I felt this was a good measure, because you can compare other lines fairly by using the first station in the Grid. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The baseline (0:00) is based on the fastest train of the day. In the morning, this is the service that leaves Lilydale at 6:47AM and arrives at Parliament 49 minutes later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve chosen Croydon weekday timetable as the basis for the above chart because all trains stop there, and it&#8217;s somewhat in the middle between Ringwood and Lilydale. The exact timing will differ slightly for other stations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Y-Axis shows how much longer it takes to get to the Hoddle Grid if you arrived on the platform at any given minute of the day. Lower is better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can see the that it sucks the most to arrive on the Croydon platform at 11:49AM. If this happens, you are 77 minutes away from the Hoddle Grid, which is 39 minutes worse than if you&#8217;d arrived at 8:43AM.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During peak times, you can randomly land on a platform without reading the timetable, and you know that your overall trip time will only vary by about 10 minutes. In the middle of the day or after 8PM, it&#8217;s a total crapshoot. It could be 10 minutes worse than the express. It could be 41.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The next logical step would be to compare this to a line that we perceive to have better service.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s a thing I threw together in an attempt to visualise what&#8217;s wrong with the timetable for the Lilydale line. A measure in common use is the time between services. The metric is easy to grasp. Trains are 30 minutes apart in the middle of the day, and it&#8217;s horrible. 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